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Tuesday, 13 October 2009

Ban SIS ??

I was browsing through Facebook, when my eyes caught sight of an interesting poster.

BAN SIS with a nice logo to go with it. You know what struck me upon perusing this logo below? It takes more care and thought creating the logo. On the other hand probably 2 seconds to put a cross onto it. Maybe that is why it is in our culture to ban things, especially books. It is the easy way out.
BAN SISTERS IN ISLAM IN MALAYSIA Menghentikan Ideology karut yang boleh merosakkan akidah.
( To stop ridiculous ideology that could jeopardize the belief)

And what belief is that? That women should be oppressed like they were oppressed in the era of the jahiliyah? (oops...sorry, I just gave you the "infidel's" link. Here, click THIS JAHILIAH for a non infidel explanation ; never mind that the explanation is via the infidel internet)

It made me curious, as any ban thing would (kind of a publicity actually. I mean after they burnt Galileo for simply stating that it is actually the earth that is rotating around the sun, and not the other way round, I can't risk dismissing ideologies that are rebuked, shunned, etc until I learn about it now can I?)

Perusing through the "BAN SIS IN MALAYSIA" website, I looked for grounds on which they’ve decided that SIS should be banned, I found none. However, I found this instead:

1. Islam is the way of life
2. Al-quran and As-sunnah does not need to be reinterpreted
3. Allah is just and fair there is no discrimination of women in ISLAM

Only three positions? The Karma Sutra can come up with more positions than that, talk about a dead non creative mind. So okay, let me just go through them with you.

(Click on rabbit hole to find out more)

1. Islam is a way of life.

Banning something without fully understanding it is a way of life? Sounds like "my way or the highway" to me. Who's way of life is it exactly? I mean if you can only come up with only 3 positions, and no reason for the ban stated anywhere on the website, obviously you need to do more research in the matter before you set out to launch a smear campaign, right?

Hmm..guess they haven’t heard of Al Hujraat verse 6, in which God tells us to verify the truth in the information, before passing it on;

ا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا إِن جَاءكُمْ فَاسِقٌ بِنَبَأٍ فَتَبَيَّنُوا أَن تُصِيبُوا قَوْمًا بِجَهَالَةٍ فَتُصْبِحُوا عَلَى مَا فَعَلْتُمْ نَادِمِينَ

" O ye who believe! If a wicked person comes to you with any news, ascertain the truth, lest ye harm people unwittingly, and after wards become full of repentance for what ye have done."

We don't know who is wicked and who is not until we know right? So just establish all news to be true before passing it on to others, simple common sense. Then again, the Malay society tends to go with the flow, more of wanting to belong to the majority and indulging in what is hype..I give you a simple example....MAWI...nuff said.

2. Al Quran and As Sunnah does not need to be reinterpreted.

I suppose if you’re taught to feel contented from small with the little knowledge embedded into your mentality, this is so true. Fed with milk, burped and go back to slumber. Nice life. But have every one of those people actually read the whole of quran and sunnah to decide that they do not need re-interpretation? Really? Look at Turkey, whom the world refer to as the progressive Muslims,(well, the rest of the "Islamic" countries are basically "out of this world", so.....) and they are directing the re-analization of sunnah.

Even the Quran interpretation from Arabic to English are known to have been tampered with, as claimed by Edip Yuksel, Aidid Safar and others. They may be wrong, but I think to decide who is wrong or who is right, we should learn the content first in able to do that, not ban them, unless of course, you have things to hide. Unless you are telling me that God Himself did the translation, why is it so hard to acknowledge the possibility of human error in the interpretation of Quran from Arabic to English? Are these translators "maksum"?

3. Allah is just and fair there is no discrimination of women in ISLAM.

Duuuuhh….who’s questioning Allah? It’s idiots like you that make us wonder were you the people who contributed to the statistics that led to scientists' conclusion that humans do not use much percentage of their brain matter. It is the human interpretation of God's law, that needs questioning.

Besides, ask those poor women divorcees who are faced with so many problems the moment they step into the Syariah Department to file for divorce, all the way to fighting for monetary support from the biological divorced fathers, THEY will tell you there's no discrimination..ppfff!!!

Don't let me start on mental discrimination. They're so good at mental discrimination, so much so the women themselves taught what is not rightly done unto them, are actually the law of God and comes from Hadiths that cannot be questioned.

I give you an example of Ammendments of law privileging men, executed in 1994 regarding polygamy.

For example, in 1994 : the fifth condition in section 23i.e. "that there would be no reduction in the standard of living, directly or indirectly of the existing wife and dependants", was deleted through the Amendment Act of 1994. I got this off SIS's website by the way. It's no wonder many wants SIS banned. They know the law and what manipulation was done to it, by, well, non other than the Muslim men!! And they say they are not discriminative!!!

Women are told to do things even God have not mentioned at all, covering their heads for one. I mean, logically, if one were allowed to ummm....think, [obviously those who said common sense if dangerous in Islam are not acquainted, or perhaps had forgotten the verse "It is not for a person to acknowledge except by God's leave. He casts the affliction upon those who do not reason." (10:100) ] wouldn't it make more sense that if God would have mentioned it at least once, should He think that covering the head is important or even necessary at all? Because He did say ,

وَمَا مِن دَآبَّةٍ فِي الأَرْضِ وَلاَ طَائِرٍ يَطِيرُ بِجَنَاحَيْهِ إِلاَّ أُمَمٌ أَمْثَالُكُم مَّا فَرَّطْنَا فِي الكِتَابِ مِن شَيْءٍ ثُمَّ إِلَى رَبِّهِمْ يُحْشَرُونَ

[Yusufali 6:38] There is not an animal (that lives) on the earth, nor a being that flies on its wings, but (forms part of) communities like you. Nothing have we omitted from the Book, and they (all) shall be gathered to their Lord in the end.

I wonder, which part of the word,"nothing" some people they do not get?

So in the end, there are a long list of don'ts that some may make you go, "Huh?" or "WTF?" and when they come up with the do's it has the same "WTF" effect too. (Breasfeed-not-for-the-milk program one example). And Muslim becomes more of the people who refrain from life rather than doing. (Maybe that explains the lack of the "giving" part in Malaysian Muslim practicing culture. I mean, maybe it's me, but I hardly see righteous Muslims volunteer to change bed pans or sheath in the old folks' homes or the illegal immigrants like the Myanmaris for example. Oh! I forgot, we don't help infidels. Hmm...)

So what we do in our free time? We create the Halal Journal. It's probably easier than to come up with the thicker "Haram Journal". God only said "....forbidden unto you the flesh of swine....", becomes "forbidden unto you the swine and anything to do with it".

Surah An Nahl;
وَلاَ تَقُولُواْ لِمَا تَصِفُ أَلْسِنَتُكُمُ الْكَذِبَ هَـذَا حَلاَلٌ وَهَـذَا حَرَامٌ لِّتَفْتَرُواْ عَلَى اللّهِ الْكَذِبَ إِنَّ الَّذِينَ يَفْتَرُونَ عَلَى اللّهِ الْكَذِبَ لاَ يُفْلِحُونَ

"But say not - for any false thing that your tongues may put forth,- "This is lawful, and this is forbidden," so as to ascribe false things to Allah. For those who ascribe false things to Allah, will never prosper."

What worries me is not the banning of SIS, i think SIS can take care of themselves pretty well, they have very intelligent and even powerful women on board. It’s the amount of morons out there…currently about 12,000++ (very eery like when you see the hotel or posh restaurant prices with a ++ sign at the end of each figure) that "signed up" for the ban. Well, you cannot be that smart if you sign up for something you don’t understand right? Only morons signs something they don’t fully understand. Ask the lawyers, they’ll quote to you the amount of these imbeciles that probably double the amount of "Ban SIS" followers.

It is a fond thing said against us that we must know the quran and hadith before we can actually speak out regarding an Islamic issue. Why can't the same law apply here? Why can't we make sure that those who wishes to ban SIS, know their Quran and their Hadiths. Why the double standard eh?

Am I for SIS or for banning SIS you may wonder. Well, at this point, all I can say is that, the ban had instigated my interest into finding out more about SIS, an organization I hardly knew existed (then again, I'm a social retard), until they decided to call upon a ban unto it. Suddenly, SIS looks interesting as any ban material would be. Banning is a form of desperate measure to hush normally the truth, by the majority. Well, haven't you heard? Truth hurts. If one do not think something is threatening and causing them the insecurity, why not just ignore it. Why bother to impose a ban?

I may agree with the SIS agenda, or otherwise, but I think it is only fair for me to say that one need to understand, empathize with something before making the decision to stand by it or against it. In short, I do not sign a blank cheque.

Banning on the other hand, is a desperate cry of insecurity. Here's a simple solution. How about we ban banning?Not a bad idea eh?
(Rabbit Hole ends here)
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Planet of the Monyets said...

the earth rotates around the sun ? since when ?

PahNur said...

since the earth is flat..

PahNur said...

...or is it since the earth "was" flat..dunno..high on tapai...

Hazriq said...

It is sad they way the society just DON'T THINK.

Jeg said...

Yes, the earth rotates around the sun. As always, as stated in the Quraan.

Earth is never flat, and it's told in the Quran is earth is egg-shaped, not your regular chicken egg but the oystrich egg.

This was foretold 1400 years ago!

Tapai is not harram, as it's in the process of right before making itself alcoholic.

Yes, people do think. It's either some ppl wud accept your other people's opinions that is.

Yes, ban sisters in islam. or atleast they should have their name changed. They dont really act and their ideologies are not 100% Islamic so they can't say they represent Islam, they can modify the teachings of Allah swt.


p/s: don't be a snob and start calling ppl dumb-ass or giving dumb statements (like Hazriq always said, he wants to be the New God if you ask me).

PahNur said...

Dear Jeg, you don't get irony do you? (on the remark of the earth is rotating around the sun)... :)

I agree with you in regards to one thing: your last word “Wallahualam”. That means "only God knows the truth". Unfortunately, when God shares a minute percentage of His knowledge,
[18:109];the humans instead turn their heads around in arrogance, and chose to fall back on words of the mere mortals instead.

[Yusufali 41:3] A Book, whereof the verses are explained in detail;- a Qur'an in Arabic, for people who understand;-

And Jeg, I’m sorry to inform you that tapai water is ethanol, that is one of the 12 alcohol group and the only one that has intoxicating properties. Here, look in if you have problems believing me.

You wrote:

“They (SIS) dont really act and their ideologies are not 100% Islamic so they can't say they represent Islam, they can modify the teachings of Allah swt.”

Out of curiosity, what is your knowledge of SIS that made you come up with that conclusion and what exactly do you have in mind what constitute 100% Islamic? Does whipping people who drinks alcohol (at all) Islamic? If you can come up with ONE, just ONE verse in the Quran that says people who consume intoxicants, alcohol for example IS TO BE PUNISHED, I will be happy to go around whipping those sitting in Bangsar, caught consuming alcohol myself. Syariah laws are man made, and it’s only implemented in three states, Perlis, Pahang and Kelantan. Is that fair for the Muslims in Malaysia in general that only 3 states practices one law and the other get away with it? Or is it fair that people like Kartika and not the Head of Religious body of Pahang gets the whipping when it is an open secret that the latter have the same habits as Kartika?

[Yusufali 5:8] O ye who believe! stand out firmly for Allah, as witnesses to fair dealing, and let not the hatred of others to you make you swerve to wrong and depart from justice. Be just: that is next to piety: and fear Allah. For Allah is well-acquainted with all that ye do.

Frankly, I don’t’ think you actually read my article in full, or perhaps you just have problem deciphering it. Then again, you’re a male who will benefit from syariah law’s shortcomings assuming that you are indeed, a Muslim of course. Btw, I don’t call people “dumb ass”, but if my writing makes them feel like one, then I guess I had done that person a favour. “He who knows not, and knows he knows not (but too arrogant to admit it) – he is a child; teach him”. But for “he who knows not and knows not he knows not, he is a fool; shun him”

P/s and if by "arrogant" you mean "proud", then YES, I'm proud to voice my opinion especially when I can back it up with the words of God Himself. Can you do the same?

czaree said...

The thing about SIS is it's a feminist group and its view is slanted in that direction. I remember they were making an issue about property division and they seem to be assuming that only men earn money and property when the relity is there are more educated and high earning women about and the number is increasing. I never hear them talk about women contribution and responsiblity to the family.When it comes to this aspect they and most women vehemently stick to the traditional view that it is the men's reponsibility to provide. You cant't have your cake and eat it too all the time. In the west equality means just that everything is equal who earns more provide more and in divorce the women may have to pay the men aloimonies. You should not worry about your side of the equation only. If you look at it the men are in trouble admittedly some of teir own making and women can't be expecting men to be men of the old days and yet women to be the new women. Some common ground must be reached.